charlottesville for going over the speed limit and being arrested but they also crashed a car during law school over in europe and what did joe do to take care of it. he was a fixture of the family. >> host: was teddy the one who was closest to rose or was that bobby? >> guest: i think of the boys it was joe junior to begin with because he was the number one son. he was the fair-haired lawyer and when he passes i think that role goes to bobby because he is so much younger. rosa and her mother would say oh he's going to become a sissy because he surrounded by girls in the birth order. rosie then says later on after his death, she is approached by a documentarian who wants information about the first film he is making and rose literally says i don't remember too much about his boyhood because he was the seventh child and he was in the midst of all these other children. i can't really give you details. having said that though he was the sensible one. he was the smallest of the four boys in stature. he was the most religious and the most moral. i think there's a beautiful clip and you can se